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Poster: skies Date: Sep 1, 2009 11:30am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

You said it right,Garthus ! Now ,I want to know who owns whatever we said on these here forum ? Do we have any rights ?

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Poster: garthus Date: Sep 1, 2009 11:45am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Skies,

You can place restrictions on what you yourself create; the content that is; I choose to place everything under the Creative Commons. As far as Public Domain works go; we all have rights to do with them as we please, attribution is not even required. That is the Utopia of the Commons.

Gerry

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Poster: skies Date: Sep 1, 2009 12:12pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Garthus: what is the difference between a Public Domain or Creative Commons for a GD forum ? Is there a choice then ?

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Poster: garthus Date: Sep 1, 2009 12:35pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Skies,

Public Domain is the generic way of referring to works which no individual can claim rights to. Air is Public Domain, regardless of what the Government may say, since it move around no one can claim ownership to certain molecules in the air. Creative Commons is a license developed for legalistic purposes which allows an individual to place a non-restrictive copyright on a work of theirs. For example, when I digitized Karma;

http://www.archive.org/details/Karma_A_Story_Of_Early_Buddhism

By putting it under the Creative Commons license; any additional work which I added is also placed in the Public Domain, which means that no intelectual scum-types can try to claim it for theirs just because they may have been paid by a library to scan the work.

Like wise the materials which I personally post like poetry:

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=poem%20garthus%20AND%20mediatype%3Atexts

Are also free for anyone to take, borrow, use and incorporate into their own work without attribution.

Gerry

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Poster: skies Date: Sep 1, 2009 2:36pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Yes ,Garthus , I understood what you said this time . I also tried to get access to your book on ealy karma , to read ,without loading yet,and nowhere could I find button/spot to click on that landed at reading said book !If I really knew HOW to read a book on archive.org ,I'd like that ... except it tires the eyes to read long pages on PC!

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Poster: garthus Date: Sep 1, 2009 4:51pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Skies,

I just rederived the book, it was put up before they used the on-line reader. 15 minutes to an hour or so, it will be done and ready to read on line. It is hort so it will not take to long. I pulled this book from the dumpster at a local university; it is probably worth over $1,000 US dollars. Librarirains today do not have a clue, they are destroying more books everyday than during the Nazi regime in Germany.

Gerry

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Sep 2, 2009 12:14am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Gerry,

Re your "Librarians today do not have a clue, they are destroying more books everyday than during the Nazi regime in Germany."

How did the qualify as librarian's?

In NZ, we would suggest they got their license out of a corn-flakes box. (free gift)

Peter


This post was modified by Time Traveller on 2009-09-02 07:14:04

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Poster: skies Date: Sep 2, 2009 3:07am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

I agree with you ,Garthus ! In France they also destroy thousands of books too and not only publis librairies ,bookstores ,publishers , all do it ! Thre is even a rotten systemm to stall good books from being found for clients ,and heavy laws to ruin those who don't accept phonies's "plitically correct' . Less freedom to write , worse than in USA ,a real shame remining me of old Vatican 's persecution of intelligence so as to control people ! The jerkos whaking jaws to control infos /books, also get rich careers in politics, and parades on tv/radios ,and are pissed about last frontier front ,wordwide Internet !

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Poster: dilcurrie Date: Sep 1, 2009 11:51am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

well said

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Sep 1, 2009 11:27pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Whatever you produce yourself (including your own words on these forums) are considered works of art.

The second you produce your work of art, automatically a full copyright is on it. The copyright just happens, untouched by human hands.

Everybody must assume that anything they see, anywhere, not just on the WWW (and archive) is under copyright, unless there is a attached notice, downgrading the copyright.

So, with your copyright by default, all you can do for your works of art, is attach a notice, reducing, or eliminating your rights.

The following link leads to a discussion between myself and Gerry, on copyright, and links to more discussions by me, on all the loopholes in copyright becuase of the WWW.


http://www.archive.org/details/AFirstDiscussionOnCopyrightLaws

And I could have put full copyright on the documents, but I chose not to. Clicking on publisher "Time Traveller" on those pages, you will see various other uploads of mine, and the various copyrights I used.

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Poster: skies Date: Sep 2, 2009 3:33am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

Garthus: This page about your discussion with Peter ;even on full screen, lettlers size too small; tires my eyes ! One good reason to continue with archive' forumx is the clear and easy readings!

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Sep 4, 2009 8:41pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

And Skies, it appreas you like dicussions on the forums, we know both me and Gerry have health issuies, and we alos ave very busy.

You might like to sign up to my forum on

http://www.instructables.com/group/aspies/

click on JOIN in the upper right corner, you dont have to be an aspie to join. There is two Dutch people, I think their is a French member of my group. No need to be a pro member

But you also just join in on http://www.instructables.com/ no need to pay to be a pro member, and there are lots of forums and discussion going

its a lot safer than Facebook for example

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Sep 4, 2009 8:32pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Intellectual rights and the public commons:

if you were reading the item on line Skie, you need to us the + and - buttons, the + button zooms in, the - button zooms out

if you download the PDF, there are zoom in buttons too.

THAT discussion I referred you to, was on the forums, then duplicate to the Archive, for easy referral to.

I just returned from hospital yesterday that why I have not been around
Peter